March 19, 2013
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You are not a US citizen
Savory Scents is featured in the second issue of an ezine called The Agorist Report. Read all about it here: https://theagoristreport.wordpress.com/2013/03/12/the-agorist-report-issue-2/
So here’s the definition of a citizen: “A person owing loyalty to and entitled by birth or naturalization to the protection of a state or nation”
It sounds like it’s a valid argument, then, that to classify yourself as a US citizen is legitimate, right? Wrong. That is incorrect. No government agency is obligated to protect you, including the police, as we can see in a number of court cases (one of these cases can be read about here)
Protect and serve!!!!!!! Cuz ‘Merica!!!!! And ALLLLLLL the laws that are there to “protect” you as a “US citizen” are completely legit, right?
Anyway, the above paragraph is not related to my point. My point is, if courts can rule that there is no obligation of the government to protect you from danger, which is the definition of a citizen, then the claim that there’s such a thing as a US citizen is false. I don’t know how you can interpret that in any other way. You could also go so far as to say that since there’s no obligation to protect, the wars for your “freedom” and the laws that are put in place to “protect” you from yourself or others are not there for you at all, but only to fund raise more money for the government and to control you, and are therefore illegitimate and false.
Comments (18)
‘MURICA, FUCK YEAH
food for thought, that it is.
Okay, I know we’re friends and all; but I have to say this for that very reason. Anarchy is the most illogical thing I’ve ever heard. Now, our government is not perfect, but I feel like you’ve got it twisted. The system itself isn’t bad, it’s the people who run the system that manipulate it to their own desires that is screwing this country up. I am going to soon be depending upon the government’s aid to live; because I am disabled and can’t keep a job. Without the government I wouldn’t have any health care. So you can sit there and talk all the shit you want about this country (which I do hate and I do think is a piece of shit) but it isn’t all bad. Humanity is inherently bad, just look at what we did to the people who were here before us. Do you REALLY believe that people are genuinely good at heart? Our history is brutal and filled with men and women killing each other over stupid reasons; do you REALLY believe that would some how be different now? Now that people are MORE greedy and MORE lazy and MORE corrupt than before? It’s fine that you have your opinion since that’s the idea of being an individual but it makes me SO mad when you talk shit about a system that has helped me so much. (Despite is has hurt me a bit too.) Rant end. I’m sorry if that was harsh, I respect you as a person and I respect your opinions and your mind and your unique perspective on the world. I hope you understand that.
I’m not at all on board with anarchy for the simple reason that that would turn out to be a very brutal tyranny. But this post presents good food for thought as someone else said.
@None_May_Have_Her - I do not have the opinion that people in need shouldn’t be helped, and I’m sorry if you’ve felt that that’s my view. I think that a free market would be SO much more efficient in providing help based on a voluntary donation system. If an organization isn’t doing their due diligence in providing services in a satisfactory manner, it will be reflected in the market. A different organization would be used. People do not want programs to go away for people that truly need the help. I just think that the funds shouldn’t be extracted in a coercive manner. People donate their time and money to those in need in manners they see fit. You can see the evidence for that when some sort of natural disaster strikes and people donate millions of dollars to help. My sister has psychosis and her anti-psychotics are VERY expensive, so I see and understand the need for help for those that can’t make it on their own. Governments have killed more people in the history of the world than those who kill for vengeance or just because they want to, and that’s because power corrupts. That does not mean that people are inherently evil..it just means that human beings are corrupted if the right circumstances come along. I wholly believe that a completely free market system would be a hundred times more effective than government can be. If there was free market of choice on what service you choose for the help you need, there would be so much more innovation and efficiency for anything the government has ever done. I’ve never seen a government system that works properly, and if that were any other business, they would not be in business. Right now no one has much of a choice..but there could be. I don’t really like labels like anarchist or libertarian..I prefer to use the term liberty-minded. I do think there is a place for laws, but only laws that harm someone else or their property. If it doesn’t harm someone else, it shouldn’t be a law.
Man has a dual nature- that which brings about goodness is spiritual (like your candles; I have enjoyed the light and scent of “Midnight Skinny Dip”). That which brings about strife, discord and brutality is the lower, physical nature, which Christians and Muslims call “Satanic”. I believe this life is meant for us to build our spiritual strength and subdue our inner brute.
Your notions are worthy of thought and consideration. Still and all, a sane and intelligent patriotism, as opposed to nationalism, is a cornerstone of security for communities and nations.
@mtngirlsouth - I wouldn’t like to speculate on what anarchy would be like with today’s evolving ideas on peace and liberty, because no one can say for certain what it would look like unless it’s actually tried. But I do prefer to use the term liberty-minded for myself.
I wasn’t born in the US. I was born on a base in Germany.
I’m almost proud of that.
I’m definitely not loyal to the US. It gave me nothing I needed when I needed it most. I was very desperate. Then they tried to kill me, which broke my heart. It wasn’t necessarily dying. It was the fact they wanted me dead.
Even my smallest dreams were crushed as I was gutted in my blind youth.
Now what’s left of me kind of wanders around.
There is a lot of truth to this, and the fact that the courts have held police have no obligation to protect individuals blows away the argument, “You don’t need guns to protect yourself and others; the police will do that”. Police seldom prevent attacks; they just report them and try to find the person or people who did them.
@RighteousBruin - I still don’t believe that man is inherently good or evil, or that it’s even nature. The human mind is blank until it’s filled with consciousness..thoughts, ideas, memories, and learning. There may be a complex network of genes that have pre-dispositions, but that doesn’t mean that those genes will be activated until the right conditions come along. Nature and nurture are never mutually exclusive. Take two men, and put them in the same position of power. One may take the road the road of corruption, but one may remain as pure as could possibly be given the situation. Ron Paul is the most principled politician I’ve ever seen..he has stuck by his morals even in a place of political power. Unfortunately, being a politician in the US is dripping with incentives to become corrupted, and most people have a price that the corporations are willing to pay.
As far as patriotism or nationalism…I’m still not sold on that either. A nation is only as arbitrary as the imaginary lines drawn on a map, and they can be changed. Minnesota could one day be Canada, and Texas could go back to being Mexican. I believe that a group of people in a certain location could voluntarily choose to hire security companies for protection, and I don’t have any problem with that…but I wouldn’t go so far as to call that being proud of where you are from and having to defend it because of that pride.
Also, I’m glad you enjoy the candle ^_^
@Colorsofthenight - I’m sorry to hear that you’ve had that experience.
@lonelywanderer2 - I completely agree. I’ve used this argument once with this court decision. If it’s not the obligation to the police to protect you, then whose is it? It is the fundamental right as a human being to protect your own life in any manner you see fit for the situation anyway, even without this fact about obligation of the police. If it’s up to me to defend my life from harm, I would absolutely rather have a gun than a knife or my fists, simply because a gun is more efficient and effective.
@None_May_Have_Her – ”Anarchy” doesn’t mean “no rules” but “no rulers,” in this case meaning the “the people who run the system that manipulate it to their own desires.” Look up the Federal Election Commission site, look up Obama’s donations and see just how much he took from corporate donors and billionaires while he was complaining about corporations and rich people.
I’m glad your etsy shop is sucessful and that you are able to pay your phone bills.
Interesting point dear.
Well said.
Technically we’re all commodities of the British Empire and the United States is a British corporation. Our government has no obligation to us whatsoever.
@crazy2love - I wish I could believe that. Thank you for taking the time to respond so thoughtfully. I have so much respect for you, you are doing things I could never in a million years do. You are stronger than I could ever be. I am always humbled by someone who can express the passion of their view without getting heated. You have certainly made me think. Keep it up, you are an inspiration.
A little birdie told me it was your birthday! Hope it’s a great one!